i remember as a boy or as a tong adult running home buckley -- i don't know if you , but he ism or not pretty much the father of the conservative movement. they do not really manifest until much after his death but these people were raised under and part of the buckley philosophy was that if you could put an elephant in the room and put a skirt on it -- let me say it this way. part of the philosophy was that you could tell a lie as long as you put the right face on it. if you told it long enough, people would believe it. this is pretty much where the republicans are going. there's an elephant in the room, you know. >> one quick question and we will get back to the topic. as an independent, is there a political personality, republican or independent, that you see as someone you would support, whether it's for president leader of your party? caller: i am the labored with having to listen to both candidates, democrat and republican. as it stands at this point, i have to go with hillary clinton, but if the republicans are going to be serious about this next election, they have to come to t